O Retorno do Rei

[Láthspell]

Bueno...

Se acontecer, será inédito na história da Academia. Primeiro, por ser uma grande obra de fantasia a ganhar o Oscar. E por ser o terceiro filme de uma série a ganhar o Oscar.

 

[Aran Aragorn]

sequencias geralmente não são muito aceitas.
quem ganha o oscar é filme de ação, ou denúncia social, essas coisas...

é a vida

 

[SyncMaster]

Peço desculpa por ser já a terceira ou quarta critica que posto neste fórum, mas tenho de o fazer (e esta vem dum purista):

I came into FOTR as a relative Tolkien virgin. I had read about halfway through the books just prior to seeing the film, and was primed, but really not ready for the sheer visual and emotional assault that followed. It was new, fresh, and entirely unlike anything else I’d ever seen, in or out of its ostensible genres. A fan was born. After that, I finished the books, then built up a year’s worth of expectations for TTT. Unfortunately, my expectations weren’t quite met. Part of that was due to having spoiled myself rotten before seeing the movie, but part of it was also simply having a different vision than what Peter’s eventually turned out to be. The largest part, however, was the truncated nature of the movie. The cut after cut after cut feel was relentless, and exhausting, and there were large gaps where explanations for things were completely missing. The biggest tragedy, to me, was that the central and core emotional arc of the story, Frodo and Sam’s journey, was reduced to only 1/3 of the screentime. Merry and Pippin were barely in the film at all, with only 10 minutes. Having expected, from FOTR, that the story was about the Hobbits, this imbalance was jarring and disappointing. Not that the rest of the story was bad. In fact, it was brilliant. But it lacked the magic and warmth that was inherent in FOTR which came directly from the heavy focus on Frodo and co.

Once I saw the TTT EE (for me, the truly definitive and perfect version), and realized how much of those stories were cut, I feared for what might happen with ROTK. I was worried that it would be the Aragorn and Legolas and Arwen show. That we would see nothing but vast fields of orcs, and, once again, miss out on the true heart and soul of the story.

Well, the Valar must have been listening to my complaints (or reading my reviews!) because ROTK has a wondeful balance between the storylines. There are a few that get short shrift. Most notably, screentime for Eowyn, Faramir and, most disappointingly, Merry is much below what I would’ve hoped for, but generally speaking, things are much more in balance between the action and the emotional punches of the story. Of course, it also helps that the hobbit storylines are full of action themselves this time, so there’s a consistent pace and pitch across the board, with no lulls. Once again, I do expect the ROTK EE to be the definitive version for me, but I also wasn’t nearly as disappointed with this installment as I was with TTT’s theatrical version.

I should note, here, that when I say I was disappointed, I’m talking purely from a nitpicking perspective. I don’t consider myself a Tolkien purist (hardly) and I’m actually more a fan of the movies than the books. My disappointments largely come from my vision for the movies being slightly different than Peter’s (though ironically, it does tend to dovetail with Philippa and Fran’s most of the time) and I do acknowledge that these are Peter’s movies, not mine, and that’s fine. Rather than being a pan of the films—not at all-- my criticisms come from the fact that these films are such perfect masterpieces that they’re nearly impossible to criticise. They’re the best films I have ever seen, by leaps and bounds, and it’s only that very last shred of perfection I think they could reach. I’m the kind of person who sees a 97% on something and wonders what can be done to get those last three points, so when I make complaints here, it’s talking about those last three points only.

Overall, the movie is astonishing. I expect to see it several more times, as I did with the first two, to let the true density of it all sink into me, layer by layer. If I had to describe it in one word? Operatic. Rivaling anything the opera stage has ever produced for sheer drama, intensity and lush, raging beauty, it is a filmic masterpiece. My personal nitpicks aside, as they are both personal and nitpicky, I can’t imagine a finer film I’ve ever seen
There are just so, so many memorable moments. Even a scene-by-scene outline couldn’t do them justice. The audience was full of cheers, shrieks of shock and delight and fear, sobs and excited babbling after the show. It really will take more than one, preferably at least three viewings to really absorb it all. This movie is so intense, so visceral, so BIG that it tests the limits of what any audience member can absorb. If you remember the scene of Gandalf and the Rohirrim charging down the hill in TTT, and the way that felt (for me, it was goosebumps upon goosebumps and still is, 15 viewings later) that’s what the whole of ROTK feels like. It’s absolute, total bliss, and the only thing that could have made it any better is to have more of it. Pity I have to wait 2 weeks to see it again!

 

[Fingolfin éadig]

Peço desculpa por ser já a terceira ou quarta critica que posto neste fórum, mas tenho de o fazer (e esta vem dum purista):

I came into FOTR as a relative Tolkien virgin. I had read about halfway through the books just prior to seeing the film, and was primed, but really not ready for the sheer visual and emotional assault that followed. It was new, fresh, and entirely unlike anything else I’d ever seen, in or out of its ostensible genres. A fan was born. After that, I finished the books, then built up a year’s worth of expectations for TTT. Unfortunately, my expectations weren’t quite met. Part of that was due to having spoiled myself rotten before seeing the movie, but part of it was also simply having a different vision than what Peter’s eventually turned out to be. The largest part, however, was the truncated nature of the movie. The cut after cut after cut feel was relentless, and exhausting, and there were large gaps where explanations for things were completely missing. The biggest tragedy, to me, was that the central and core emotional arc of the story, Frodo and Sam’s journey, was reduced to only 1/3 of the screentime. Merry and Pippin were barely in the film at all, with only 10 minutes. Having expected, from FOTR, that the story was about the Hobbits, this imbalance was jarring and disappointing. Not that the rest of the story was bad. In fact, it was brilliant. But it lacked the magic and warmth that was inherent in FOTR which came directly from the heavy focus on Frodo and co.

Once I saw the TTT EE (for me, the truly definitive and perfect version), and realized how much of those stories were cut, I feared for what might happen with ROTK. I was worried that it would be the Aragorn and Legolas and Arwen show. That we would see nothing but vast fields of orcs, and, once again, miss out on the true heart and soul of the story.

Well, the Valar must have been listening to my complaints (or reading my reviews!) because ROTK has a wondeful balance between the storylines. There are a few that get short shrift. Most notably, screentime for Eowyn, Faramir and, most disappointingly, Merry is much below what I would’ve hoped for, but generally speaking, things are much more in balance between the action and the emotional punches of the story. Of course, it also helps that the hobbit storylines are full of action themselves this time, so there’s a consistent pace and pitch across the board, with no lulls. Once again, I do expect the ROTK EE to be the definitive version for me, but I also wasn’t nearly as disappointed with this installment as I was with TTT’s theatrical version.

I should note, here, that when I say I was disappointed, I’m talking purely from a nitpicking perspective. I don’t consider myself a Tolkien purist (hardly) and I’m actually more a fan of the movies than the books. My disappointments largely come from my vision for the movies being slightly different than Peter’s (though ironically, it does tend to dovetail with Philippa and Fran’s most of the time) and I do acknowledge that these are Peter’s movies, not mine, and that’s fine. Rather than being a pan of the films—not at all-- my criticisms come from the fact that these films are such perfect masterpieces that they’re nearly impossible to criticise. They’re the best films I have ever seen, by leaps and bounds, and it’s only that very last shred of perfection I think they could reach. I’m the kind of person who sees a 97% on something and wonders what can be done to get those last three points, so when I make complaints here, it’s talking about those last three points only.

Overall, the movie is astonishing. I expect to see it several more times, as I did with the first two, to let the true density of it all sink into me, layer by layer. If I had to describe it in one word? Operatic. Rivaling anything the opera stage has ever produced for sheer drama, intensity and lush, raging beauty, it is a filmic masterpiece. My personal nitpicks aside, as they are both personal and nitpicky, I can’t imagine a finer film I’ve ever seen
There are just so, so many memorable moments. Even a scene-by-scene outline couldn’t do them justice. The audience was full of cheers, shrieks of shock and delight and fear, sobs and excited babbling after the show. It really will take more than one, preferably at least three viewings to really absorb it all. This movie is so intense, so visceral, so BIG that it tests the limits of what any audience member can absorb. If you remember the scene of Gandalf and the Rohirrim charging down the hill in TTT, and the way that felt (for me, it was goosebumps upon goosebumps and still is, 15 viewings later) that’s what the whole of ROTK feels like. It’s absolute, total bliss, and the only thing that could have made it any better is to have more of it. Pity I have to wait 2 weeks to see it again!

Surpreendente um purista falar assim ...qdo ele começou a criticar eu ja imaginei la vem bomba d novo
Mas c o filme for tao bom qto ele diz sera no minimo magistral!!!! ainda bem!!!

 

[Lorelin]

Eu encontrei este clipe na net. Ele é pequeno mais é tão triste. buah!!!!!!

Não sei se já colocaram aqui mas em todo o caso...

http://www.theargonath.cc/videos/vids.html



Tadinho do Elrond, eu acho que vou chorar no cinema.


Ps: esqueci de dizer q eh o primetime arwen elrond clip.

 

[Elendil Senhor de Andúnië]

Saiu críticas QUENTES no www.warofthering.net e no TheOneRing...

 

[Boreli]

Até agorta, nenhuma crítica negativa! Vamos ver até o final da semana e depois as nacionais a partir do dia 13. . .

 

[Boreli]

HAVE FUN:

http://mediaframe.yahoo.com/launch?...amp;.dist=New Line Cinema&type=c",500,590);



Spoilers!!!

 

[Tisf]

CARAMBA!!


Convulsão!!

 

[Pips]

Eu tive alguns ataques, mas conseguir me conter!!!

 

[MetaliuM]

Que issoooooooo!!!!!!Boreli, voce conseguiu derrubar com essas imagens, todos esses reviews metidos a besta!!!Agradeço-te muito meu caro!

 

[Mouth of Sauron]

huUAHEUHAUE Boreli vc é realmente um spoillerman... :*

abração de coracao hehehe...

puta merd**** qe demais.... ja to contando os dias hehehe

 

[Elendil Senhor de Andúnië]

Muito bom,Boreli Bolseiro,muito bom mesmo!!!Gostei de ver o video de parte do filme do Pippin com o palantir e de ver o Merry com aquela cara,perfeito!!!!

 

[SyncMaster]

Mais uma bellisima critica, vinda de alguém que ama os livros:

http://www.warofthering.net/specialnewspages/rotkreview.php

E se quiserem outras, dirigam-se ao site www.warofthering.net .......

 

[Mi6]

Que video eh esse?!!!!
Spoiler brabo, mas muito bom.

 

[Eönwë]

O palantir virou uma bola de fogo que causa convulsões? Quem encosta nele parece que fica locão... Mas ficou legal...

 

[Ehlana]

Bem... hoje foi a antestreia em Portugal e eu tive o privilégio de lá estar Já é tarde aqui: 2:25 da manhã, mas não resisti em passar por cá e dizer-vos que se têm o pressentimento que o filme é LINDO ampliem esse sentimento 100 vezes. Estou completamente sem palavras, comovida e ainda não consegui parar de chorar.

Fez-se história no cinema. Não há palavras que descrevam o que eu senti a ver o Regresso do Rei.

Estão interessados numa review (com o devido alerta em relação aos spoilers?) ou preferem fazer perguntas, como naquele outro site em que estivemos? Ou preferem que eu me mantenha calada? LOL

Só vos posso dizer: O FILME ESTÁ ABSOLUTAMENTE... sei lá... LINDO não chega

 

[Tisf]

Cristo!!!


Abra um tópico assim:


O Retorno do Rei: Eu vi!!!!!!!!!

E poste seu review!!!!! Aí a galera que vai vendo vai postando lá!!

 

[Elendil Senhor de Andúnië]

Boa idéia a do Tisf!!!!Moderadores,avisem se eu(ou ele)pode abrir um tópico novo EXCLUSIVAMENTE para quem viu aos filme,já que está chegando a hora.

Até porque o tópico "Retorno do Rei" já está com bastante mensagens,sendo que 97%do conteúdo são coisas que não interessam mais...ou seja,o tópico está com os dias contados!Então,que criem um tópico igual ao que o Tisf sugeriu:"Retorno do Rei:Eu Vi!!!

 

[Ehlana]

Muito bem... então vou postar lá