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Re: Nintendo Revolution
Revolution Tech Details Emerge
Devs give us the scoop on performance power and RAM capacity. Exclusive information revealed.
December 5, 2005 - Nintendo has during recent months remained publicly quiet on its next-generation console, codenamed Revolution, but even so the company has taken behind-the-scenes steps to prepare development studios for the platform. We spoke with multiple software houses either creating software for or experimenting with the machine in its still incomplete stage and have been able to compile some new technical details.
Readers are advised to make two notes before continuing with this article. The first is that developers are still working with incomplete Revolution hardware. Most studios are, in fact, developing on "GameCube-based kits," according to major software houses we spoke to, which have asked to remain anonymous. The second is that developers are still without final specifications for Revolution's ATI-developed graphics chip, codenamed Hollywood. That stated, many third parties have been partially briefed by Nintendo representatives about the Revolution hardware, its overall horsepower, and the Big N's plan for the console. Based on the information studios have relayed to us, Revolution is truly poised to cater to an altogether different game market than either Microsoft or Sony with their Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 consoles respectively. Nintendo's machine will simply not deliver the same graphic horsepower as its competitors. Revolution is all about the controller and what it can do for gameplay experiences.
When Revolution was initially unveiled, a Nintendo executive said it would be "two-to-three times more powerful than GameCube." The company never commented on Revolution's horsepower again and we were later told that the initial statement was incorrect. However, according to development houses, that description accurately sums up Revolution's power.
"To be honest, it's not much more powerful than an Xbox. It's like a souped up Xbox," a major third party source revealed to us. "But it's the controller that makes the difference and the controller is really nice."
Nintendo has said all along that sheer horsepower has not been a priority with Revolution. Rather, the company hopes to make the console small, quiet and affordable. It is very likely for this reason that the Big N chose not to make Revolution compatible with the emerging 720p, 1080i and 1080p high-definition video resolutions, which are focuses for competing consoles.
[/size] Gamers holding out for Nintendo to reverse its stance on the HD front may be in for a disappointment. Revolution will not have the RAM capacity to store and display an abundant source of high-definition textures. Third parties have revealed to us that the console will top out with 128MBs of RAM, and possibly even less. One studio would not give us an exact figure, but did say, "The same as GameCube plus an extra 64MB of main RAM." That number is by comparison nearly triple the amount of memory in GameCube. However, it is a far cry from the 512MBs present in Xbox 360. One studio we spoke to hinted at the possibility of accessing further Revolution RAM, but its comments were cryptic. "There is more RAM that you can use, but Nintendo is using that for general memory, like game saves and all sorts of other things. You could use it, but you can't rely on it." This comment seems to suggest that developers might be able to tap into Revolution's 512MBs of on-board Flash memory, but to our knowledge such a solution would be too slow to utilize in games.
Still, the studios we spoke with are still very intrigued by Revolution and are not ruling out the possibility of additional graphic horsepower. No developer that chatted with us had, or was willing to share, details on the console's GPU, Hollywood. One studio said: "As soon as we find out what it can do then we'll know if Revolution will just be like an Xbox or something a little more."
Asked if it was developing for Revolution, one major third party source said that it was well past the experimental stage and was evaluating what types of games might work on the platform. "We are looking at it quite differently. It's like another current generation platform for us. But it's such a nice controller that it opens up a lot of possibilities. It's very different and it's very precise."
Finally, quizzed about publishers' internal reaction to the device, a source responded: "People are interested, but they're still taking it all in at the moment. I'm sure [Nintendo is] going to get a fair amount of support. Probably a lot of people will initially look at existing franchises and whether or not they can kind of do customized versions for Revolution using most of the assets they've got. But whether they'll say, "Okay, let's do something completely original for it," that's the other question because it could be quite expensive to do that. Not as expensive as doing a PS3 or Xbox 360 game. But if you're a third party and you want to do cross platform, if you're doing a game on 360 you can do it on PS3 or PC using the same assets and that does make it a bit easier."
Nintendo has consistently downplayed the role of horsepower with Revolution, often saying that graphics have reached a "saturation point" in today's games. Nintendo bigwig Shigeru Miyamoto has suggested that players might not be able to tell the difference between the new Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess and some high-definition games.
The Big N will reveal much more about Revolution beginning early next year, according to company executives, and will show first games at the Electronics Entertainment Expo 2006 next May in Los Angeles. Stay tuned for more.
Fonte: IGN
Revolution Tech Details Emerge
Devs give us the scoop on performance power and RAM capacity. Exclusive information revealed.
December 5, 2005 - Nintendo has during recent months remained publicly quiet on its next-generation console, codenamed Revolution, but even so the company has taken behind-the-scenes steps to prepare development studios for the platform. We spoke with multiple software houses either creating software for or experimenting with the machine in its still incomplete stage and have been able to compile some new technical details.
Readers are advised to make two notes before continuing with this article. The first is that developers are still working with incomplete Revolution hardware. Most studios are, in fact, developing on "GameCube-based kits," according to major software houses we spoke to, which have asked to remain anonymous. The second is that developers are still without final specifications for Revolution's ATI-developed graphics chip, codenamed Hollywood. That stated, many third parties have been partially briefed by Nintendo representatives about the Revolution hardware, its overall horsepower, and the Big N's plan for the console. Based on the information studios have relayed to us, Revolution is truly poised to cater to an altogether different game market than either Microsoft or Sony with their Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 consoles respectively. Nintendo's machine will simply not deliver the same graphic horsepower as its competitors. Revolution is all about the controller and what it can do for gameplay experiences.
When Revolution was initially unveiled, a Nintendo executive said it would be "two-to-three times more powerful than GameCube." The company never commented on Revolution's horsepower again and we were later told that the initial statement was incorrect. However, according to development houses, that description accurately sums up Revolution's power.
"To be honest, it's not much more powerful than an Xbox. It's like a souped up Xbox," a major third party source revealed to us. "But it's the controller that makes the difference and the controller is really nice."
Nintendo has said all along that sheer horsepower has not been a priority with Revolution. Rather, the company hopes to make the console small, quiet and affordable. It is very likely for this reason that the Big N chose not to make Revolution compatible with the emerging 720p, 1080i and 1080p high-definition video resolutions, which are focuses for competing consoles.
Metroid Prime 3 for Revolution as shown at E3 2005. A giant leap in graphics or a marginal improvement over GameCube?
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[/size] Gamers holding out for Nintendo to reverse its stance on the HD front may be in for a disappointment. Revolution will not have the RAM capacity to store and display an abundant source of high-definition textures. Third parties have revealed to us that the console will top out with 128MBs of RAM, and possibly even less. One studio would not give us an exact figure, but did say, "The same as GameCube plus an extra 64MB of main RAM." That number is by comparison nearly triple the amount of memory in GameCube. However, it is a far cry from the 512MBs present in Xbox 360. One studio we spoke to hinted at the possibility of accessing further Revolution RAM, but its comments were cryptic. "There is more RAM that you can use, but Nintendo is using that for general memory, like game saves and all sorts of other things. You could use it, but you can't rely on it." This comment seems to suggest that developers might be able to tap into Revolution's 512MBs of on-board Flash memory, but to our knowledge such a solution would be too slow to utilize in games.
Still, the studios we spoke with are still very intrigued by Revolution and are not ruling out the possibility of additional graphic horsepower. No developer that chatted with us had, or was willing to share, details on the console's GPU, Hollywood. One studio said: "As soon as we find out what it can do then we'll know if Revolution will just be like an Xbox or something a little more."
Asked if it was developing for Revolution, one major third party source said that it was well past the experimental stage and was evaluating what types of games might work on the platform. "We are looking at it quite differently. It's like another current generation platform for us. But it's such a nice controller that it opens up a lot of possibilities. It's very different and it's very precise."
Finally, quizzed about publishers' internal reaction to the device, a source responded: "People are interested, but they're still taking it all in at the moment. I'm sure [Nintendo is] going to get a fair amount of support. Probably a lot of people will initially look at existing franchises and whether or not they can kind of do customized versions for Revolution using most of the assets they've got. But whether they'll say, "Okay, let's do something completely original for it," that's the other question because it could be quite expensive to do that. Not as expensive as doing a PS3 or Xbox 360 game. But if you're a third party and you want to do cross platform, if you're doing a game on 360 you can do it on PS3 or PC using the same assets and that does make it a bit easier."
Nintendo has consistently downplayed the role of horsepower with Revolution, often saying that graphics have reached a "saturation point" in today's games. Nintendo bigwig Shigeru Miyamoto has suggested that players might not be able to tell the difference between the new Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess and some high-definition games.
The Big N will reveal much more about Revolution beginning early next year, according to company executives, and will show first games at the Electronics Entertainment Expo 2006 next May in Los Angeles. Stay tuned for more.
Fonte: IGN
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Re: Nintendo Revolution
Essa notícia é meio velha. Já teve até pronunciamento da Nintendo sobre os gráficos afirmando novamente, que se não for em HDTV, as diferenças quase não existirão.
Eu não sei, a Nintendo claramente não entrou na briga por um hardware super-potente. Se ela não arranjou um meio de melhores resultados com menos processamento, dificilmente os gráficos serão comparáveis aos outros 2 consoles.
Essa notícia é meio velha. Já teve até pronunciamento da Nintendo sobre os gráficos afirmando novamente, que se não for em HDTV, as diferenças quase não existirão.
Eu não sei, a Nintendo claramente não entrou na briga por um hardware super-potente. Se ela não arranjou um meio de melhores resultados com menos processamento, dificilmente os gráficos serão comparáveis aos outros 2 consoles.
DW
Usuário
Re: Nintendo Revolution
Não precisa ter pena não Kyo. Eu percebo que ele pode contribuir muito na jogabilidade, mas eu simplismente não gostei. E na minha opinião, o controle é tosco. Eu acho melhor o método tradicional.
Tomara que a Nintendo lance algum acessório que transforme aquilo num controle normal.
Não precisa ter pena não Kyo. Eu percebo que ele pode contribuir muito na jogabilidade, mas eu simplismente não gostei. E na minha opinião, o controle é tosco. Eu acho melhor o método tradicional.
Tomara que a Nintendo lance algum acessório que transforme aquilo num controle normal.
ombudsman
O Eto'o brasileiro
Re: Nintendo Revolution
Só por via das duvidas...
Voce tem uma TV HD?
Demon Wizard disse:Não precisa ter pena não Kyo. Eu percebo que ele pode contribuir muito na jogabilidade, mas eu simplismente não gostei. E na minha opinião, o controle é tosco. Eu acho melhor o método tradicional.
Tomara que a Nintendo lance algum acessório que transforme aquilo num controle normal.
Só por via das duvidas...
Voce tem uma TV HD?
Kyo
Big bad wolf
Re: Nintendo Revolution
Caso você, sei lá, lesse o tópico como um todo, saberia que a Nintendo vai lançar uma especie de controle que se encaixaria nesse novo, transformando em um controle clássico, mas esqueci que ler um tópico grande é muito dificil
Demon Wizard disse:Não precisa ter pena não Kyo. Eu percebo que ele pode contribuir muito na jogabilidade, mas eu simplismente não gostei. E na minha opinião, o controle é tosco. Eu acho melhor o método tradicional.
Tomara que a Nintendo lance algum acessório que transforme aquilo num controle normal.
Caso você, sei lá, lesse o tópico como um todo, saberia que a Nintendo vai lançar uma especie de controle que se encaixaria nesse novo, transformando em um controle clássico, mas esqueci que ler um tópico grande é muito dificil
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[F*U*S*A*|KåMµ§]
Who will define me?
Re: Nintendo Revolution
O Miyamoto num disse q ainda tinha mais um segredo a respeito do controller?
O Miyamoto num disse q ainda tinha mais um segredo a respeito do controller?
[F*U*S*A*|KåMµ§]
Who will define me?
Re: Nintendo Revolution
O Iwata garantiu em entrevista q o Revo vai vir com valor abaixo de 300 doletas....
Po.....Abaixo disso é obrigação com o q estamos esperando q vai ser a parte técnica do console....
Se ele kiz animar alguem tinha q ter dito q seria abaixo das 200 doletas.....Ou até das 250 doletas pelo menos.....
Mas.....Esperança é a ultima q morre.....O Revo TEM q vir baratin.....
Game Over
O Iwata garantiu em entrevista q o Revo vai vir com valor abaixo de 300 doletas....
Po.....Abaixo disso é obrigação com o q estamos esperando q vai ser a parte técnica do console....
Se ele kiz animar alguem tinha q ter dito q seria abaixo das 200 doletas.....Ou até das 250 doletas pelo menos.....
Mas.....Esperança é a ultima q morre.....O Revo TEM q vir baratin.....
Game Over
[F*U*S*A*|KåMµ§]
Who will define me?
Re: Nintendo Revolution
Mudem o titulo do tópico !!!
Mudem tudo !!!!
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[size=+2]Revolution renamed Wii[/size]
(Gamespot)
- While the code-name 'Revolution' expressed our direction, Wii represents the answer. Wii will break down that wall that separates game players from everybody else. Wii will put people more in touch with their games...and each other.
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Bom. Nome sempre se deve esperar um pouco para ver se fica legal ou se vai ficar ruim sempre (como a própria matéria cita, tem vários vgs com nomes muito simplórios e ruins: Gamecube? Playstation1, 2, 3? Nintendo 64? etc).
Mas em primeira vista é um PÉSSIMO nome, pior ainda se comparado à Revolution que tinha muito mais impacto.
Vamos ver. Eu também achava o nome Dolphin muito mais simpático que Gamecube (e ainda acho), mas Gamecube não chegou a me incomodar.
Mas já prevejo que será meio estranho você falar: "Ah, eu tenho Wii.", "Olá. Quais jogos para Wii você tem na loja?", etc.
Wii....wii....iiiihaaa....Uuuuhaaa....Uuaahhaaa
Pelo menos vamos ouvir o Mário falar o nome do console muitas vezes durante seu primeiro jogo de plataforma.....
Mudem o titulo do tópico !!!
Mudem tudo !!!!
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[size=+2]Revolution renamed Wii[/size]
(Gamespot)
- While the code-name 'Revolution' expressed our direction, Wii represents the answer. Wii will break down that wall that separates game players from everybody else. Wii will put people more in touch with their games...and each other.
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Bom. Nome sempre se deve esperar um pouco para ver se fica legal ou se vai ficar ruim sempre (como a própria matéria cita, tem vários vgs com nomes muito simplórios e ruins: Gamecube? Playstation1, 2, 3? Nintendo 64? etc).
Mas em primeira vista é um PÉSSIMO nome, pior ainda se comparado à Revolution que tinha muito mais impacto.
Vamos ver. Eu também achava o nome Dolphin muito mais simpático que Gamecube (e ainda acho), mas Gamecube não chegou a me incomodar.
Mas já prevejo que será meio estranho você falar: "Ah, eu tenho Wii.", "Olá. Quais jogos para Wii você tem na loja?", etc.
Wii....wii....iiiihaaa....Uuuuhaaa....Uuaahhaaa
Pelo menos vamos ouvir o Mário falar o nome do console muitas vezes durante seu primeiro jogo de plataforma.....
Re: Nintendo Revolution
É, já saíram tantas notícias do Revolu.. ops WII
lol
, que eu fiquei com preguiça de colocar aqui. Konami, Ubisoft, Sega e umas empresas pequenas já anunciaram vários jogos, inclusive com imagens in-game (Red Steel, da Ubisoft).
Agora eu vou começar a atualizar se eu ver mias notícias.
É, já saíram tantas notícias do Revolu.. ops WII
lol, que eu fiquei com preguiça de colocar aqui. Konami, Ubisoft, Sega e umas empresas pequenas já anunciaram vários jogos, inclusive com imagens in-game (Red Steel, da Ubisoft).Agora eu vou começar a atualizar se eu ver mias notícias.
Re: Nintendo Revolution
EA revela suposto segredo do Revolution, o trecho é este:
Pra quem não entendeu, diz que o controle do WIIlol é capaz de simular impactos (ou algo assim). Por exemplo, em um jogo de tiro em primeira pessoa, é capaz de você sentir o impacto da arma ao atirar e por aí vai. Muito foda. 0.0
EA revela suposto segredo do Revolution, o trecho é este:
http://revolution.ign.com/articles/703/703727p1.html
Pra quem não entendeu, diz que o controle do WII
lol é capaz de simular impactos (ou algo assim). Por exemplo, em um jogo de tiro em primeira pessoa, é capaz de você sentir o impacto da arma ao atirar e por aí vai. Muito foda. 0.0
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Lukaz Drakon
Souls. I Eets Them.
Re: Nintendo Revolution
Vai ser WII mesmo?
Que horrivel.
Vai ser WII mesmo?
Que horrivel.
Mr. Nice Bobby
the Old Man
Re: Nintendo Revolution
Wii mesmo.
"Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!"
Nome ridículo!
Wii mesmo.
"Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!"
Nome ridículo!
[F*U*S*A*|KåMµ§]
Who will define me?
Re: Nintendo Revolution
O fonema "Wi" nem sequer existe no idioma japonês.....
Só adaptações em katakana para algumas palavras ocidentais, mas mesmo assim não são mto usadas.....
Mas a matéria diz q apenas "ii" significa "bom" em japonês.....
Mas acho q não foi exatamente um fator decisivo para o nome.....
A não ser que lancem com outro nome no ocidente (como foi com o famicom e o nes) com algum significado compreensivel para nós.....Mas isso é uma hipótese descartável hj em dia.....
As justificativas q eles usaram foram de fatores estéticos (com os 2 "ii"s simbolizando os 2 controles unicos do novo console, tb representando 2 pessoas e o conceito de vg para toda a familia q a Nintendo adotou, etc).....
Mas ainda não me convence mesmo assim.....
Pior q não.....Demon Wizard disse:
O fonema "Wi" nem sequer existe no idioma japonês.....
Só adaptações em katakana para algumas palavras ocidentais, mas mesmo assim não são mto usadas.....
Mas a matéria diz q apenas "ii" significa "bom" em japonês.....
Mas acho q não foi exatamente um fator decisivo para o nome.....
A não ser que lancem com outro nome no ocidente (como foi com o famicom e o nes) com algum significado compreensivel para nós.....Mas isso é uma hipótese descartável hj em dia.....
As justificativas q eles usaram foram de fatores estéticos (com os 2 "ii"s simbolizando os 2 controles unicos do novo console, tb representando 2 pessoas e o conceito de vg para toda a familia q a Nintendo adotou, etc).....
Mas ainda não me convence mesmo assim.....
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