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Rush, Led Zeppelin, etc.

Tópico em 'E os Bardos Cantam...' iniciado por Balbo, 19 Mai 2002.

  1. Balbo

    Balbo Usuário

    O Rush tem algumas músicas cujas letras são inspiradas na obra de Tolkien, feitas pelo baterista Neil Peart, que é fã da obra, além de ser considerado por muitos como o melhor baterista de Rock do mundo.

    Aí vão elas:

    Rivendell
    Álbum: Fly By Night

    Sunlight dances through the leaves
    Soft winds stir the sighing trees
    Lying in the warm grass
    Feel the sun upon your face
    Elven songs and endless nights
    Sweet wine and soft relaxing lights
    Time will never touch you
    Here in this enchanted place

    I've traveled now for many miles
    It feels so good to see the smiles of
    Friends who never left your mind
    When you were far away
    From the golden light of coming dawn
    Till the twilight where the sun is gone
    We treasure every season
    And every passing day

    You feel there's something calling you
    You're wanting to return
    To where the misty mountains rise and friendly fires burn
    A place you can escape the world
    Where the dark lord cannot go
    Peace of mind and sanctuary by loud water's flow

    We feel the coming of a new day
    Darkness gives way to light a new way
    Stop here for a while until the world,
    The world calls you away
    Yet you know I've had the feeling
    Standing with my senses reeling
    This is the place to grow old till
    I reach my final day.

    You feel there's something calling you
    You're wanting to return
    To where the misty mountains rise and friendly fires burn
    A place you can escape the world
    Where the dark lord cannot go
    Peace of mind and sanctuary by loud water's flow.



    The Necromancer
    Álbum: Caress Of Still

    I. Into Darkness
    As grey traces of dawn tinge the eastern sky, the three travelers, men of Willow Dale, emerge from the forest shadow. Fording the River Dawn, they turn south, journeying into the dark and forbidding lands of the Necromancer. Even now the intensity of his dread power can be felt, weakening the body and saddening the heart. Ultimately they will become empty, mindless spectres, stripped of will and soul. Only their thirst for freedom gives them hunger for vengeance...
    Silence shrouds the forest
    As the birds announce the dawn
    Three trav'llers ford the river
    And southward journey on
    The road is lined with peril
    The air is charged with fear
    The shadow of his nearness
    Weighs like iron tears

    II. Under the Shadow
    Shreds of black cloud loom in overcast skies. The Necromancer keeps watch with his magic prism eyes. He views all his lands and is already aware of the three helpless invaders trapped in his lair...
    Brooding in the tower
    Watching o'er his land
    Holding ev'ry creature
    Helplessly they stand
    Gaze into his prisms
    Knowing they are near
    Lead them to the dungeons
    Spectres numb with fear
    They bow defeated

    III. Return of the Prince
    Enter the Champion. Prince By-Tor appears to battle for freedom from chains of long years. The spell has been broken...the Dark Lands are bright, the Wraith of the Necromancer soars away...in the night.
    Stealthily attacking
    By-Tor slays his foe
    The men are free to run now
    From labyrinths below
    The Wraith of Necromancer
    Shadows through the sky
    Another land to darken
    With evil prism eye...
     
  2. Afyon

    Afyon Usuário

    E o Led Zep?

    Falaew!
    Então, você disse no título que tinha algo sobre o Led... vc só escreveu sobre o Rush...
    Que eu saiba, a única música do Led que tem a ver com LOTR é a Ramble On... mesmo assim, ela eh bem cogumelo.
    []´s
    Ricardo
     
  3. Balbo

    Balbo Usuário

    Aí vão as letras do Led Zeppelin:

    Ramble On

    The leaves are falling all around
    Time I was on my way
    Thanks to you
    I'm much obliged
    Such a pleasant stay
    But now it's time for me to go
    The autumn moonlight's my way
    And now I smell the rain
    And with it pain
    And it's heading my way

    Oh, sometimes I grow so tired
    But I know I've got one thing
    I've got to do

    Ramble on
    Now's the time, the time is now
    Sing my song
    I'm going around the world
    I gotta to find my girl
    On my way
    I've been this way, ten years 'til the day
    Ramble on
    And find the Queen of all my dreams

    Got no time for spreading roots
    The times has come, to be gone
    And though our health we drank
    A thousand times
    It's time to ramble on

    Ramble on
    Now's the time, the time is now
    Sing my song
    I'm going around the world
    I gotta to find my girl
    On my way
    I've been this way, ten years 'til the day
    Ramble on
    And find the Queen of all my dreams
    I ain't teeling no lie

    Mine's a tale, that can't be told
    My freedom I hold dear
    How years ago in days of old
    When magic filled the air
    I was in the darkest dephts of Mordor
    I met a girl so fair
    But Gollum and the evil one crept up
    And slipped away with her her
    Her her, her yeah
    There ain't nothing I can do now

    I guess I'll keep on rambling
    I'm gonna shake
    Sing my song
    I gotta find my baby
    I'm gonna ramble on
    Sing my song
    I'm gonna work my way
    Go around the world, baby baby, yeah
    I'm gonna ramble on
    A do do do do do, my baby
    Baby, just ramble on, baby
    A do do do do do
    I can't stop this feeling in my heart
    Everytime I get enough of it
    I really got to hold you
    I got to keep searching for my baby
    Baby, baby, baby, baby, baby, baby, baby
    I got to keep searching for my baby
    My, my, my, my, my
    Yeah, yeah


    Essa música não é cogumelo, é blues, e essa é uma característica do Led Zeppelin. A parte inspirada na obra de Tolkien é essa:

    Mine's a tale, that can't be told
    My freedom I hold dear
    How years ago in days of old
    When magic filled the air
    I was in the darkest dephts of Mordor
    I met a girl so fair
    But Gollum and the evil one crept up
    And slipped away with her her
    Her her, her yeah
    There ain't nothing I can do now


    Possivelmente esse trecho faz uma alusão ao anel. Gollum e Sauron tomam dele sua preciosa, mas ele não pode fazer nada contra isso.


    The Battle Of Evermore

    Queen of Light took her bow, And then she turned to go,
    The Prince of Peace embraced the gloom, And walked the night alone.

    Oh, dance in the dark of night, Sing to the morning light.
    The dark Lord rides in force tonight, And time will tell us all.

    Oh, throw down your plow and hoe, Rest not to lock your homes.

    Side by side we wait the might of the darkest of them all.

    I hear the horses' thunder down in the valley blow,
    I'm waiting for the angels of Avalon, waiting for the eastern glow.

    The apples of the valley hold, The seas of happiness,
    The ground is rich from tender care, Repay, do not forget, no, no.
    Dance in the dark of night, sing to the morning light.

    The apples turn to brown and black, The tyrant's face is red.

    Oh the war is common cry, Pick up you swords and fly.
    The sky is filled with good and bad that mortals never know.

    Oh, well, the night is long the beads of time pass slow,
    Tired eyes on the sunrise, waiting for the eastern glow.

    The pain of war cannot exceed the woe of aftermath,
    The drums will shake the castle wall, the ring wraiths ride in black, Ride on.

    Sing as you raise your bow, shoot straighter than before.
    No comfort has the fire at night that lights the face so cold.

    Oh dance in the dark of night, Sing to the morning light.
    The magic runes are writ in gold to bring the balance back. Bring it back.

    At last the sun is shining, The clouds of blue roll by,
    With flames from the dragon of darkness, the sunlight blinds his eyes.


    Misty Mountain Hop

    Walkin' in the park just the other day, Baby,
    What do you, what do you think I saw?
    Crowds of people sittin' on the grass with flowers in their hair said,
    "Hey, Boy, do you wanna score?"
    And you know how it is;
    I really don't know what time it was, woh, oh,
    So I asked them if I could stay awhile.

    I didn't notice but it had got very dark and I was really,
    Really out of my mind.
    Just then a policeman stepped up to me and asked us said,
    "Please, hey, would we care to all get in line,
    Get in line."
    Well you know, They asked us to stay for tea and have some fun,
    Oh, oh, he said that his friends would all drop by, ooh.

    Why don't you take a good look at yourself and describe what you see,
    And Baby, Baby, Baby, do you like it?
    There you sit, sitting spare like a book on a shelf rustin'
    Ah, not trying to fight it.
    You really don't care if they're coming, oh, oh,
    I know that it's all a state of mind, ooh.

    If you go down in the streets today, Baby, you better,
    You better open your eyes.
    Folk down there really don't care, really don't care, don't care, really don't
    Which, which way the pressure lies,
    So I've decided what I'm gonna do now.
    So I'm packing my bags for the Misty Mountains
    Where the spirits go now,
    Over the hills where the spirits fly, ooh.
    I really don't know.
     
  4. Anonymous_theOld

    Anonymous_theOld Usuário

    Eu ainda acho que stairway to heaven poderia se encaixar muito bem na estória da Galadriel, muito bem.

    o disco II do zeppelin ainda tem mais uma música q agora não lembro o nome q tbm é sobre esse tema.

    ah, e tem a < myst mountain hop > tbm....
     
  5. Tonho Hammond

    Tonho Hammond Molusco

    bah, eu sou o visitante daí de cima.
     
  6. Maglor

    Maglor Lacho calad! Drego morn!

    O Robert Plant já falou que Stairway to Heaven não pe baseada em nada de Tolkien. Mas eu acho que não diretamente; todo aquele espírito da música é bem Terra-Média sim, eu concordo.
     
  7. Balbo

    Balbo Usuário

    Sim, e a letra dela está logo acima do seu post, hehe
     
  8. Galadriel

    Galadriel Meditando

    Stairway to Heaven

    Ah, sei lá. Acho que Robert Plant nunca vai admitir nada sobre Stairway to Heaven... HEheHEheHE

    Pessoalmente, eu nunca parei para analizar semelhanças entre o que Tolkien escreveu e a letra.

    Se bem que There's a feeling I get when I look into the West (...) é bem élfico...
     
  9. Maglor

    Maglor Lacho calad! Drego morn!

    Re: Stairway to Heaven

    É justamente esse verso que me faz imaginar que, de alguma forma, admitindo ou não, Stairway to Heaven é influenciada por Tolkien.
     
  10. Tonho Hammond

    Tonho Hammond Molusco

    There's a feeling I get
    When I look to the west,
    And my spirit is crying for leaving.

    Aqui todo mundo consegue ver, né?

    In my thoughts I have seen
    Rings of smoke through the trees,
    And the voices of those who standing looking

    Isso aqui pode ser a visão de galadriel do Sauron se lavantando em Mordor

    Ainda tem a Parte que fale dos espíritos chamando a May Queen ( Rainha de maio, rainha da primavera, pra mim de novo a Galadriel)

    And as we wind on down the road
    Our shadows taller than our soul.
    There walks a lady we all know
    Who shines white light and wants to show
    How ev'rything still turns to gold.

    Uma senhora que brilha luz branca pode ser olhado tbm como galadriel, quem sabe?


    Mas eu duvido de ter sido inspirado tanto assim nela, mas que o Led tem uma enorme influência tolkeniana não se pode negar, até pq muitas comunidade hippies adotaram o 'estilo de vida'dos elfos, se achavam elfos, viviam para e com a natureza etc e tal.

    Uma coisa que eu acho muito legal no Led é que eles tem essa influência toda mas não ditam nem contam uma estória conhecida de Arda, como oBlind Guardian faz, eles são mais viajantes na minha opinião, eles entram mais no clima de ser bardo mesmo.
     
  11. Inho

    Inho Usuário

    bem, antes de tudo...

    JIMMY PAGE É O PAI!!!

    pronto, agora que minha excitação passou...
    Pessoal, acho q tem mais musicas do Led com influência de Tolkien viu?? tipo, nas letras eu naum sei pq poucas eu consigo tirar e naum tenho paciência pra ficar procurando letra na net, mas é sensível a infulência tolkien em boa parte da obra. Tipo, tem uma...acho q é achilles last stand (q o jimmy page diz q é a melhor variação de guitarra q ele já fez), a letra nau parece ter muito a ver com tolkien, mas a harmonia, a melodia, é tudo tão...élfico! Bardos hippies, hail!!! :D
     
  12. Tonho Hammond

    Tonho Hammond Molusco

    Mas essa é a coisa toda da semelhança e do negóciao élfico ...
    a sensibilidade, a sutileza, a leveza, as variantes, o tesão, o espírito, a intensidade, a viagem, a busca pelo novo, a ânsia por descobrir...
    é tudo isso que faz do led zeppelin pra mim a banda mais tolkeniana de todo o sempre, eles parecem que realmente estão lá, que realmente se auto-proclamam e levantam a bandeira em meio uma taberna e cantam, cantam para que todos escutem, para que todos sintam, para que todos entre num transe coletivo de prazer mental ... putz, led zeppelin é sensacional !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    e os pais são page e jp jones.
     
  13. Tonho Hammond

    Tonho Hammond Molusco

    Quanto cometario relevante, heehhehe
     
  14. Idril

    Idril Usuário

    É, o último do Balbo realmente foi relevante. :roll:

    Já aviso: FLOOD é deletado, post com uma só palavra, com algo que fuja do assunto do tópico, com um único smile é FLOOD.
     
  15. Tonho Hammond

    Tonho Hammond Molusco

    O seu tambem. tremendamente. :mrgreen:
     

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