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Caro Visitante, por que não gastar alguns segundos e criar uma Conta no Fórum Valinor? Desta forma, além de não ver este aviso novamente, poderá participar de nossa comunidade, inserir suas opiniões e sugestões, fazendo parte deste que é um maiores Fóruns de Discussão do Brasil! Aproveite e cadastre-se já!
Homem-Formiga (Ant-Man, 2015)
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To doida pra assistir!!!
O filme é bom mesmo para aqueles que não curtem os quadrinhos? (só pra saber, porque tenho vários amigos assim!)
Ecthelion
Mad
Fique tranquila. Não precisa ser fã de quadrinho pra gostar do filme.
Grimnir
Well-Known Member
Homem-Formiga sendo desnecessário:
How Ant-Man Connects To Doctor Strange In The Marvel Cinematic Universe
How Ant-Man Connects To Doctor Strange In The Marvel Cinematic Universe
Bruce Torres
Let's be alone together.
Uma pergunta: esse filme é realmente interessante (tipo Guardiões da Galáxia) ou é apenas um tapa-buraco pro MCU (tipo os filmes do Thor e o primeiro Capitão América)? Independente da resposta, verei mesmo assim, mas quero saber o que me espera no cinema.
Grimnir
Well-Known Member
Eu achei bem interessante, mas com certeza inferior aos Guardiões. Não sei se fui enganado por algum tapa-buraco, mas o que eu mais gostei é que Pym...
... se distancia bastante dos Vingadores, atuando como uma terceira via. Mesmo depois do conflito com a Shield (primeira cena do do filme), ele não quer de jeito nenhum se reaproximar da agência e dos Vingadores, embora ele esteja claramente inserido no mesmo universo.
Bruce Torres
Let's be alone together.
The 5 Ant-Man Spoilers You Absolutely Need to Know
Germain Lussier
Filed to: ANT-MAN 7/20/15 10:05am
Now that Ant-Man is in theaters, it’s time to fully discuss some of the bigger spoilers in the film. These involve Avengers, upcoming Marvel characters, new movies, past movies and more. Some you noticed, some maybe you didn’t, but we got the head of the studio, Kevin Feige, and director Peyton Reed to explain their implications and how it all came about.
Major spoilers follow, of course.
1) Spider-Man Was a Coincidence
At the end of the film as Falcon (more on him in a bit) talks with a journalist. The journalist mentions there are superheroes that swing and crawl up walls, a seemingly obvious nod to Spider-Man now that the character is joining the Marvel Cinematic Universe. And while this line of dialogue is now our first MCU mention of Spider-Man, that was not the original intention.
“When that was shot, that was before the whole [Spider-Man] thing had happened,” explained Marvel Studios president Kevin Feige. “It really was just her listing relatively generic powers leading into Falcon saying, ‘I’m looking for someone who shrinks.’ Now that the Spider-Man deal has been announced, it takes on a different connotation.”
Director Peyton Reed agreed.
“The important thing in this movie is that—at the end of the movie, as a result of his run-in with The Falcon—the Avengers [are looking for Ant-Man],” he said. “We don’t know why yet—we don’t know what’s going to happen, but, it had to come through Falcon, so we created this journalist character. And so, it kinda came out as this thing, and… now we know, Spider-Man is going to be a part of the larger MCU, which is incredibly exciting.”
2) The Falcon Scene Changed Age of Ultron, Reveals Civil War
The Falcon scene, in which Ant-Man battles the Avenger, is a key scene not only in the film, but in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. It was conceived by co-writer Adam McKay with effects by Industrial Light and Magic, but there’s much more to it. First of all, the scene necessitated changes in Avengers: Age of Ultron.
“We designed the new Falcon costume for Ant-Man,” Feige said. “Which we then reshot for Age of Ultron because we had shot [the final scene in that movie] originally in the old Falcon outfit.”
Then there’s the Avengers facility itself.
“If you were to do a freeze frame of that reveal in Ant-Man of the Avengers facility, you’ll see the part that you saw at the end of Ultron, but you’ll also see a section you didn’t see in Ultron, but will be a primary section in Civil War,” Feige said. “That’s the kind of thing you won’tknow until you see Civil War.”
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3) Easter Egg in the Quantum Realm
Speaking of freeze frames, Reed teased that Janet Van Dyne may have a secret scene in Ant-Man. In the film, we see her as the Wasp just before she disappears into the Quantum Realm then again in a photo. But Scott Lang too goes into the Quantum Realm .
“I don’t know if you caught any of the imagery as Scott is going down into the quantum realm, you might be able, on repeat viewing and definitely when you get the Blu-ray, there’s something the audience can see down there that Scott doesn’t see, that, may play a larger role,” Reed said. Does he mean Janet? Maybe, or maybe it’s something else.
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4) The Wasp
The Wasp tag scene, where Evangeline Lilly’s Hope Van Dyne is finally given the new Wasp costume by Hank Pym, was originally before the credits. It was then moved back because it was such an important moment. As for when we’ll see the character in action, it won’t be too soon. Feige said it deserved more than just a cameo in Ant-Man or Civil War. Think Ant-Man 2, if it happens, or possibly Avengers: Infinity War. Lilly is signed for a multi-picture deal.
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5) That Final Scene
Finally, we previously revealed that that the final end credits scene was lifted from dailies the Russo Brothers shot for Captain America: Civil War. In the scene, Captain America and Falcon have the Winter Soldier captured and discuss their plan will be better with another person. The implication? Ant-Man. But what exactly is going on in the scene?
“What you’re looking at there is a giant vice that [The Winter Soldier’s] metal arm has been purposefully trapped in,” Feige said. That’s all he’d say but the scene comes from during the movie so we’ll learn how Falcon and Cap capture the villain of The Winter Solider when Civil War is released in May 2016.
Espero que funcione como um bom stand-alone pelo menos.
Germain Lussier
Filed to: ANT-MAN 7/20/15 10:05am
Now that Ant-Man is in theaters, it’s time to fully discuss some of the bigger spoilers in the film. These involve Avengers, upcoming Marvel characters, new movies, past movies and more. Some you noticed, some maybe you didn’t, but we got the head of the studio, Kevin Feige, and director Peyton Reed to explain their implications and how it all came about.
Major spoilers follow, of course.
1) Spider-Man Was a Coincidence
At the end of the film as Falcon (more on him in a bit) talks with a journalist. The journalist mentions there are superheroes that swing and crawl up walls, a seemingly obvious nod to Spider-Man now that the character is joining the Marvel Cinematic Universe. And while this line of dialogue is now our first MCU mention of Spider-Man, that was not the original intention.
“When that was shot, that was before the whole [Spider-Man] thing had happened,” explained Marvel Studios president Kevin Feige. “It really was just her listing relatively generic powers leading into Falcon saying, ‘I’m looking for someone who shrinks.’ Now that the Spider-Man deal has been announced, it takes on a different connotation.”
Director Peyton Reed agreed.
“The important thing in this movie is that—at the end of the movie, as a result of his run-in with The Falcon—the Avengers [are looking for Ant-Man],” he said. “We don’t know why yet—we don’t know what’s going to happen, but, it had to come through Falcon, so we created this journalist character. And so, it kinda came out as this thing, and… now we know, Spider-Man is going to be a part of the larger MCU, which is incredibly exciting.”
2) The Falcon Scene Changed Age of Ultron, Reveals Civil War
The Falcon scene, in which Ant-Man battles the Avenger, is a key scene not only in the film, but in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. It was conceived by co-writer Adam McKay with effects by Industrial Light and Magic, but there’s much more to it. First of all, the scene necessitated changes in Avengers: Age of Ultron.
“We designed the new Falcon costume for Ant-Man,” Feige said. “Which we then reshot for Age of Ultron because we had shot [the final scene in that movie] originally in the old Falcon outfit.”
Then there’s the Avengers facility itself.
“If you were to do a freeze frame of that reveal in Ant-Man of the Avengers facility, you’ll see the part that you saw at the end of Ultron, but you’ll also see a section you didn’t see in Ultron, but will be a primary section in Civil War,” Feige said. “That’s the kind of thing you won’tknow until you see Civil War.”
13) Easter Egg in the Quantum Realm
Speaking of freeze frames, Reed teased that Janet Van Dyne may have a secret scene in Ant-Man. In the film, we see her as the Wasp just before she disappears into the Quantum Realm then again in a photo. But Scott Lang too goes into the Quantum Realm .
“I don’t know if you caught any of the imagery as Scott is going down into the quantum realm, you might be able, on repeat viewing and definitely when you get the Blu-ray, there’s something the audience can see down there that Scott doesn’t see, that, may play a larger role,” Reed said. Does he mean Janet? Maybe, or maybe it’s something else.
24) The Wasp
The Wasp tag scene, where Evangeline Lilly’s Hope Van Dyne is finally given the new Wasp costume by Hank Pym, was originally before the credits. It was then moved back because it was such an important moment. As for when we’ll see the character in action, it won’t be too soon. Feige said it deserved more than just a cameo in Ant-Man or Civil War. Think Ant-Man 2, if it happens, or possibly Avengers: Infinity War. Lilly is signed for a multi-picture deal.
35) That Final Scene
Finally, we previously revealed that that the final end credits scene was lifted from dailies the Russo Brothers shot for Captain America: Civil War. In the scene, Captain America and Falcon have the Winter Soldier captured and discuss their plan will be better with another person. The implication? Ant-Man. But what exactly is going on in the scene?
“What you’re looking at there is a giant vice that [The Winter Soldier’s] metal arm has been purposefully trapped in,” Feige said. That’s all he’d say but the scene comes from during the movie so we’ll learn how Falcon and Cap capture the villain of The Winter Solider when Civil War is released in May 2016.
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Espero que funcione como um bom stand-alone pelo menos.
Bruce Torres
Let's be alone together.
Here's Where The Marvel Movie Characters Stand, Now That Phase 2 Is Over
Germain Lussier
Filed to: MARVEL CINEMATIC UNIVERSE
Now that Ant-Man is out, Phase Two of the Marvel Cinematic Universe is over. This slate of six movies began with Iron Man 3, and included some bold experiments (Guardians of the Galaxy) as well as huge upheavals. Now that it’s over, where do all our favorite characters stand? Let’s get you up to speed for Phase Three.
Phase Three won’t begin until May 6, 2016, when Captain America: Civil War hits theaters. After that, it’ll continue through 2019 with Doctor Strange, Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2, Spider-Man, Thor: Ragnarok, Avengers: Infinity War Part 1, Black Panther, Captain Marvel, Avengers: Infinity War Part 2 and finally, Inhumans. That’s a lot of ground to cover—which is why we thought you might want a refresher course. Here’s where everybody’s at, after the events of Avengers: Age of Ultron and Ant-Man.
Iron Man - Tony Stark is pretty messed up after Avengers: Age of Ultron. He’s still footing the bill for the Avengers, even letting them set up shop at one of his own private bunkers in upstate New York. Emotionally though, he’s recovering from the fact his creation—Ultron—almost destroyed the world. At the moment, he is not a part of the Avengers. And our only clue to what he actually is doing comes at the end of Ant-Man, when Steve Rogers says Tony probably can’t help, because of “the Accords”—whatever those are. In any case, we know that Iron Man and Captain America won’t be on the same page, the next time they meet. Next appearance:Captain America: Civil War.
Captain America - With Tony Stark gone, Cap is the new leader of the Avengers. He surely feels bitter toward Tony for what he did with Ultron, but also proud the team was able to overcome an impossible-to-defeat enemy. With Stark now out of the equation, he’s tasked with whipping together a new batch of superheroes to defend the world as The Avengers. Next appearance:Captain America: Civil War.
Hulk - After finally forming a bond with someone (Black Widow), Bruce Banner flew the Hulk away from everything after it went south. Going into Phase Three, we don’t know his status. A downed jet found by The Avengers may be him, but he could be anywhere. We just know he’s so in love, he couldn’t bare to hurt anyone any more, so he removed himself from the equation.Next appearance: Unknown, rumored to be in Captain America: Civil War.
Thor - Though Thor helped his fellow Avengers defeat Ultron, he was preoccupied. He had some visions and realized that the Avengers and Ultron were pawns in a much larger game of chess. That game may have to do with Infinity Gems. He’s once again left Earth for Asgard to try and figure out who, or what, is really going on. Next appearance: Thor: Ragnarok, probably. Maybe sooner, though.
Loki - He was the big bad guy in Phase One but for most of Phase Two, Loki was on the sidelines. For a brief time, he helped his brother in Thor: The Dark World—but, in the end, Loki got even badder. He finished that film posing as his father, Odin, aka the ruler of Asgard. Which means he either killed or captured his father, and now is the most powerful person on that world. That can’t be good. Next appearance: Likely Thor: Ragnarok.
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Guardians of the Galaxy - The MVPs of Phase Two, and the Marvel Cinematic Universe newcomers, are somewhere in space, doing a little something good and a little something bad. We know that the mystery of Peter Quill’s father is going to be a big thing coming up, and they also have unfinished business with Thanos, who stands to play a huge role in the Infinity War.Next appearance: Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2.
Black Widow - After dealing with personal demons, kicking ass, falling in love and then losing it, as Phase Two ended, Widow was pretty down. She sucked it up, however, and is now helping Captain America run his brand new team of Avengers. Next appearance: Captain America: Civil War.
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The Vision - Keeper of the only Infinity Gem on Earth (at least, that we know of) the mysterious Vision kicked major ass in Age of Ultron. Now he’ll likely do more of the same as the most mysterious, and powerful, member of the new Avengers. Next appearance: Captain America: Civil War.
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Hawkeye - In Age of Ultron, we finally found out what the expert archer had been doing for the majority of Phase Two: He spent it with his family. As we get ready for Phase Three, he’s back with them again, probably fixing the porch or something, but he’ll be back in the game when he’s needed. Next appearance: Captain America: Civil War.
The Falcon - From best friend to trusted confidant, The Falcon is one of the newest members of The Avengers. He’s being trained by Captain America and Black Widow, and may have just met a new ally. While guarding the Avengers’ new hideout, he encountered Ant-Man, a hero who can shrink, and the Falcon is currently looking for Ant-Man. Next appearance: Captain America: Civil War.
Scarlet Witch - The Scarlet Witch lost her brother, Quicksilver, while battling Ultron, but she won’t let his death be in vain. She’s now a member of the Avengers, fighting alongside Captain America, Black Widow, Falcon, Vision and War Machine. Next appearance: Captain America: Civil War.
War Machine - He wanted some action, and now he’s got it. After working with the government in one of Tony Stark’s suits, War Machine has gone from the sidelines to a full-fledged member of the Avengers. Next appearance: Captain America: Civil War.
Ant-Man - The newest member of the Marvel Cinematic Universe tried to keep a low profile as he saved the world from the Yellowjacket. However, he got on the radar of the Avengers, and now The Falcon is looking for him. He’ll join the team soon and—if rumor holds—figure out that his suit can do more than just shrink. Next appearance: Captain America: Civil War.
Thanos - Probably the baddest man in the galaxy, Thanos first made an appearance at the end of Phase One. He next appeared in Guardians of the Galaxy, still on the hunt for some Infinity Stones. Then, at the end of Age of Ultron, he said he’s going to “do it himself.” That suggests he’s finished with being a puppetmaster and is going to take more direct action. Next appearance: Unknown. Likely Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2,maybe Thor Ragnarok, or possibly not until Avengers: Infinity War.
The Winter Soldier - Formerly Captain America’s best friend, Bucky, this genetically modified super soldier was on the run at the end of Captain America: The Winter Soldier. He’s briefly alluded to in Age of Ultron with Falcon being on the case and then, at the end of Ant-Man, we see that he’s in Cap’s custody. We’ll find how he ended up in Steve Rogers’ clutches, and where his allegiances lie, soon. Next appearance: Captain America: Civil War.
Nick Fury - The man who put all of this together was a helpful, but minor, player in Avengers: Age of Ultron. Curiously, Samuel L. Jackson has said he’s not in Captain America: Civil War, so where or what Fury’s doing is a mystery. Next appearance: Unknown.
Black Panther - Chadwick Boseman has been cast as the Wakandan superhero who, as of now, has only been tangentially referred to the films. His country is the source of vibranium, the strongest metal in the world, which is found in Cap’s shield, the Vision’s body, and Ultron’s city floating creation. As for the Panther himself, what he’s like and what his alliances are, we don’t know. We just know we’ll meet him soon. First appearance: Captain America: Civil War.
The Wasp - As Ant-Man ended, Hope Van Dyne was given an advanced prototype suit that will make her the Wasp. She’ll, eventually, join in all this fun—but as it stands now, we have no idea when. Next appearance: Unknown, possibly Avengers: Infinity War Part 1.
Doctor Strange - The Sorcerer Supreme was briefly name-dropped in Captain America: The Winter Soldier as someone HYDRA knew was a potential threat. Benedict Cumberbatch will play the role, but we know very little of his overall connection. First appearance: Doctor Strange.
Spider-Man - Everyone’s favorite Web-slinger is finally coming to the Marvel Cinematic Universe in Phase Three, as played by actor Tom Holland. This is a full reboot from the Andrew Garfield films, and he’ll appear with the rest of the gang before showing up in his own movie, so how the whole story gets handled is a mystery. But it’s extremely exciting nonetheless. First appearance: Captain America: Civil War.
Infinity Stones - Not a character—but these have long been a crucial part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe. There are six stones in total, and whoever can get all of them will have unlimited power. So far in the MCU, we’ve only seen four. There’s the Blue Space Stone (currently on Asgard, as seen in The Avengers), the Yellow Mind stone (currently on Earth with Vision, as seen in Avengers: Age of Ultron), the Red Reality Stone (currently with The Collector, as seen in Thor: The Dark World) and the Purple Power Stone (currently on Xandar, as seen in Guardians of the Galaxy.) At the end of Age of Ultron, Thanos was seen with an Infinity Gauntlet with six empty slots. The above image is from a teaser trailer for 2018 and 2019’s Avengers: Infinity War Parts 1 and 2.
Tom Holland photo: Anthony Harvey/Getty Images
Germain Lussier
Filed to: MARVEL CINEMATIC UNIVERSE
Now that Ant-Man is out, Phase Two of the Marvel Cinematic Universe is over. This slate of six movies began with Iron Man 3, and included some bold experiments (Guardians of the Galaxy) as well as huge upheavals. Now that it’s over, where do all our favorite characters stand? Let’s get you up to speed for Phase Three.
Phase Three won’t begin until May 6, 2016, when Captain America: Civil War hits theaters. After that, it’ll continue through 2019 with Doctor Strange, Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2, Spider-Man, Thor: Ragnarok, Avengers: Infinity War Part 1, Black Panther, Captain Marvel, Avengers: Infinity War Part 2 and finally, Inhumans. That’s a lot of ground to cover—which is why we thought you might want a refresher course. Here’s where everybody’s at, after the events of Avengers: Age of Ultron and Ant-Man.
Iron Man - Tony Stark is pretty messed up after Avengers: Age of Ultron. He’s still footing the bill for the Avengers, even letting them set up shop at one of his own private bunkers in upstate New York. Emotionally though, he’s recovering from the fact his creation—Ultron—almost destroyed the world. At the moment, he is not a part of the Avengers. And our only clue to what he actually is doing comes at the end of Ant-Man, when Steve Rogers says Tony probably can’t help, because of “the Accords”—whatever those are. In any case, we know that Iron Man and Captain America won’t be on the same page, the next time they meet. Next appearance:Captain America: Civil War.
Captain America - With Tony Stark gone, Cap is the new leader of the Avengers. He surely feels bitter toward Tony for what he did with Ultron, but also proud the team was able to overcome an impossible-to-defeat enemy. With Stark now out of the equation, he’s tasked with whipping together a new batch of superheroes to defend the world as The Avengers. Next appearance:Captain America: Civil War.
Hulk - After finally forming a bond with someone (Black Widow), Bruce Banner flew the Hulk away from everything after it went south. Going into Phase Three, we don’t know his status. A downed jet found by The Avengers may be him, but he could be anywhere. We just know he’s so in love, he couldn’t bare to hurt anyone any more, so he removed himself from the equation.Next appearance: Unknown, rumored to be in Captain America: Civil War.
Thor - Though Thor helped his fellow Avengers defeat Ultron, he was preoccupied. He had some visions and realized that the Avengers and Ultron were pawns in a much larger game of chess. That game may have to do with Infinity Gems. He’s once again left Earth for Asgard to try and figure out who, or what, is really going on. Next appearance: Thor: Ragnarok, probably. Maybe sooner, though.
Loki - He was the big bad guy in Phase One but for most of Phase Two, Loki was on the sidelines. For a brief time, he helped his brother in Thor: The Dark World—but, in the end, Loki got even badder. He finished that film posing as his father, Odin, aka the ruler of Asgard. Which means he either killed or captured his father, and now is the most powerful person on that world. That can’t be good. Next appearance: Likely Thor: Ragnarok.
1Guardians of the Galaxy - The MVPs of Phase Two, and the Marvel Cinematic Universe newcomers, are somewhere in space, doing a little something good and a little something bad. We know that the mystery of Peter Quill’s father is going to be a big thing coming up, and they also have unfinished business with Thanos, who stands to play a huge role in the Infinity War.Next appearance: Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2.
Black Widow - After dealing with personal demons, kicking ass, falling in love and then losing it, as Phase Two ended, Widow was pretty down. She sucked it up, however, and is now helping Captain America run his brand new team of Avengers. Next appearance: Captain America: Civil War.
2The Vision - Keeper of the only Infinity Gem on Earth (at least, that we know of) the mysterious Vision kicked major ass in Age of Ultron. Now he’ll likely do more of the same as the most mysterious, and powerful, member of the new Avengers. Next appearance: Captain America: Civil War.
3Hawkeye - In Age of Ultron, we finally found out what the expert archer had been doing for the majority of Phase Two: He spent it with his family. As we get ready for Phase Three, he’s back with them again, probably fixing the porch or something, but he’ll be back in the game when he’s needed. Next appearance: Captain America: Civil War.
The Falcon - From best friend to trusted confidant, The Falcon is one of the newest members of The Avengers. He’s being trained by Captain America and Black Widow, and may have just met a new ally. While guarding the Avengers’ new hideout, he encountered Ant-Man, a hero who can shrink, and the Falcon is currently looking for Ant-Man. Next appearance: Captain America: Civil War.
Scarlet Witch - The Scarlet Witch lost her brother, Quicksilver, while battling Ultron, but she won’t let his death be in vain. She’s now a member of the Avengers, fighting alongside Captain America, Black Widow, Falcon, Vision and War Machine. Next appearance: Captain America: Civil War.
War Machine - He wanted some action, and now he’s got it. After working with the government in one of Tony Stark’s suits, War Machine has gone from the sidelines to a full-fledged member of the Avengers. Next appearance: Captain America: Civil War.
Ant-Man - The newest member of the Marvel Cinematic Universe tried to keep a low profile as he saved the world from the Yellowjacket. However, he got on the radar of the Avengers, and now The Falcon is looking for him. He’ll join the team soon and—if rumor holds—figure out that his suit can do more than just shrink. Next appearance: Captain America: Civil War.
Thanos - Probably the baddest man in the galaxy, Thanos first made an appearance at the end of Phase One. He next appeared in Guardians of the Galaxy, still on the hunt for some Infinity Stones. Then, at the end of Age of Ultron, he said he’s going to “do it himself.” That suggests he’s finished with being a puppetmaster and is going to take more direct action. Next appearance: Unknown. Likely Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2,maybe Thor Ragnarok, or possibly not until Avengers: Infinity War.
The Winter Soldier - Formerly Captain America’s best friend, Bucky, this genetically modified super soldier was on the run at the end of Captain America: The Winter Soldier. He’s briefly alluded to in Age of Ultron with Falcon being on the case and then, at the end of Ant-Man, we see that he’s in Cap’s custody. We’ll find how he ended up in Steve Rogers’ clutches, and where his allegiances lie, soon. Next appearance: Captain America: Civil War.
Nick Fury - The man who put all of this together was a helpful, but minor, player in Avengers: Age of Ultron. Curiously, Samuel L. Jackson has said he’s not in Captain America: Civil War, so where or what Fury’s doing is a mystery. Next appearance: Unknown.
Black Panther - Chadwick Boseman has been cast as the Wakandan superhero who, as of now, has only been tangentially referred to the films. His country is the source of vibranium, the strongest metal in the world, which is found in Cap’s shield, the Vision’s body, and Ultron’s city floating creation. As for the Panther himself, what he’s like and what his alliances are, we don’t know. We just know we’ll meet him soon. First appearance: Captain America: Civil War.
The Wasp - As Ant-Man ended, Hope Van Dyne was given an advanced prototype suit that will make her the Wasp. She’ll, eventually, join in all this fun—but as it stands now, we have no idea when. Next appearance: Unknown, possibly Avengers: Infinity War Part 1.
Doctor Strange - The Sorcerer Supreme was briefly name-dropped in Captain America: The Winter Soldier as someone HYDRA knew was a potential threat. Benedict Cumberbatch will play the role, but we know very little of his overall connection. First appearance: Doctor Strange.
Spider-Man - Everyone’s favorite Web-slinger is finally coming to the Marvel Cinematic Universe in Phase Three, as played by actor Tom Holland. This is a full reboot from the Andrew Garfield films, and he’ll appear with the rest of the gang before showing up in his own movie, so how the whole story gets handled is a mystery. But it’s extremely exciting nonetheless. First appearance: Captain America: Civil War.
Infinity Stones - Not a character—but these have long been a crucial part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe. There are six stones in total, and whoever can get all of them will have unlimited power. So far in the MCU, we’ve only seen four. There’s the Blue Space Stone (currently on Asgard, as seen in The Avengers), the Yellow Mind stone (currently on Earth with Vision, as seen in Avengers: Age of Ultron), the Red Reality Stone (currently with The Collector, as seen in Thor: The Dark World) and the Purple Power Stone (currently on Xandar, as seen in Guardians of the Galaxy.) At the end of Age of Ultron, Thanos was seen with an Infinity Gauntlet with six empty slots. The above image is from a teaser trailer for 2018 and 2019’s Avengers: Infinity War Parts 1 and 2.
Tom Holland photo: Anthony Harvey/Getty Images
Bruce Torres
Let's be alone together.
Teria sido mais interessante se o Thanos tivesse pego a manopla do cofre do Odin - isso seria um bom pontapé para Ragnarok.
Alguns teorizam que a Guerra do Infinito pode ser mais um road movie com os herois correndo contra o tempo para recuperar a manopla de Odin após os incidentes de Ragnarok a fim de usá-la contra Thanos - seria uma guerra de tantãs.
Mas bem, e o que se faz das pedras, não é mesmo? 
Bruce Torres
Let's be alone together.
Hum, de fato. Ele tinha contato com Thanos por intermediário no primeiro Vingadores. Talvez tenha feito um acordo nesse meio tempo?
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Ah gente, já pra mim esse filme foi tapa-buraco. Nem tanto no sentido de que dentro do universo Marvel ele seja inútil. Eu não tenho cacife pra falar disso. Mas o filme é basicamente um clichezão. O desenvolvimento do vilão eu achei horrível, e do próprio Homem Formiga eu tbm achei raso. Os momenros divertidos ficaram bons, mas no geral advêm daquele núcleo de personagens que vc já sabe que vai rir. Eu destacaria como exceção o fato de que eles souberam brincar bem com o encolhimento do Homem Formiga, como naquela cena do trem que aparece no trailer. De todo modo, já deu pra perceber que o homem Formiga é um personagem de veia mais cômica, e imagino que ele ao lado do Homem Aranha por exemplo deva dar umas boas risadas.
Mas esse universo da Marvel a meu ver já entrou num estágio de escala industrial. Acompanhar os filmes individualmente se tornou uma exceção. Sinto que eles só parecem possuir qualidade se postos em relação ao todo, e não digo que isso seja exatamente algo ruim. Acho que isso requer do leitor uma atenção específica. Mas ao mesmo tempo ficome perguntando até quando isso vai funcionar. Se, por exemplo, esse hype de ver tantos heróis em cena não vai cansar e nós percebermos que são um monte de personagens mal desenvolvidos jogados num cenário de batalha. (O que de novo eu não chego a reclamar por si só pois, né, isso é estruturação épica pura. E digo mal desenvolvidos tomando como base por exemplo o Demolidor. Claro que o Demolidor é uma série e isso permite um espraiamento maior dos problemas da personagem, mas mesmo uma série pode ter um personagem fraco no frigir dos ovos...)
Mas esse universo da Marvel a meu ver já entrou num estágio de escala industrial. Acompanhar os filmes individualmente se tornou uma exceção. Sinto que eles só parecem possuir qualidade se postos em relação ao todo, e não digo que isso seja exatamente algo ruim. Acho que isso requer do leitor uma atenção específica. Mas ao mesmo tempo ficome perguntando até quando isso vai funcionar. Se, por exemplo, esse hype de ver tantos heróis em cena não vai cansar e nós percebermos que são um monte de personagens mal desenvolvidos jogados num cenário de batalha. (O que de novo eu não chego a reclamar por si só pois, né, isso é estruturação épica pura. E digo mal desenvolvidos tomando como base por exemplo o Demolidor. Claro que o Demolidor é uma série e isso permite um espraiamento maior dos problemas da personagem, mas mesmo uma série pode ter um personagem fraco no frigir dos ovos...)
Grimnir
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Sejamos justos: A relação herói-vilão é quase uma cópia da relação entre Stark-Obadaiah (no caso, o mentor do herói com o vilão). A motivação, na prática, é exatamente a mesma. Eu concordo que achei fraca a atuação do Jaqueta Amarela e sinceramente não fiquei totalmente vendido com a ideia de que Lang é o cara. Afinal, pq Pym o observou por tanto tempo? O que ele veio de heróico no Lang? Tudo bem que ele ama a própria filha, mas eu queria ser melhor convencido de pq Lang é tão foda assim. Se explicam, não pesquei.
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Sabe o que é pior? Ele tinha (pelo menos) uma jóia, a Jóia da Mente. E deu pro Loki. E se fudeu.
Grimnir
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Duas, uma no meio e outra no fim.
A filha de Hank Pym ganha a roupa da Vespa.
Capitão América e Falcão encontram o Soldado Invernal, aparentemente na merda (não consegui entender detalhes) e conversam se devem pedir ajuda a Stark. Roger diz que não, por causa dos "acordos" (possivelmente em relação à Guerra Civil). O Falcão então diz que sabe de um cara. Terminam os créditos com os dizeres: "Homem Formiga voltará".
Tbm achei fraca essa parte... Mas eu pesquei isso daqui:
O Lang (esse é o nome do Homem Formiga?) fez um roubo não sei onde num lugar que tinha um sistema de defesa super fodão, tido inclusive como impossível de ser burlado. Mas aí ele burlou. Tanto que a fama dele é até essa. Daí o Pym leu sobre isso e armou aquele lance de deixar o Lang roubar a rouba do Homem Formiga pra confirmar.
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