Arjen Lucassen/ Ayreon

[Regente]

Re: Ayreon

Ride the Comet e Unnatural Selection 'tão impossíveis. Não entendo nem a pau o que a Simone canta e, em Unnatural Selection, quando os diversos vocais entram em cena, perco-me completamente >.<

 

[Fosco Cachopardo]

Re: Ayreon

O álbum está muito bom, mas eu esperava mais. Algumas músicas estão deixando muito a desejar e algumas passagens intrumentais estão bem dificeis de engolir, no entanto, os vocalistas estão, no geral, impecáveis.

Destaques para o Hansi, Steve Lee, e Jorn que estão cantando demais. E realmente não sei como alguém pode não gostar do Jorn, top 10 entre os vocais de rock/metal atualmente. Alguns vocalistas eu não consegui reconhecer ainda, então não saberia falar se estão fodas ou não.

Acho que o Arjen cantou muito pouco nesse álbum, e po, a Marcela Bovio devia ser membro fixo do Ayreon, ela tem a voz mais linda do mundo Bem melhor que as outras desse album, IMO


Ah sim, The Fifth e The Sixth Extinction tem a melhor seleção de cantores em uma única música de metal da história.

 

[Regente]

Re: Ayreon

A propósito, falando de cantores, em que faixas aquele rapper (Woodstick?) aparece?

 

[TT1]

Re: Ayreon

A propósito, falando de cantores, em que faixas aquele rapper (Woodstick?) aparece?

?????????????????

 

[DW]

Re: Ayreon

Eu bem que falei pra ele parar com a cachaça...

Edit: Pensando bem, eu não sei se foi a cachaça não. Na wikipedia tem um tal de Wudstik listado como Man.

Edit2: Olha o sample do cara aqui: http://www.ayreon.com/ayreon/ayreonseven/mystery_singer15_16.mp3
Ele canta na E=MC2.

 

[Passolargo]

Re: Ayreon

Ok, não conheço nada de Ayreon, mas vi vocês falando tão bem desse último cd que vou conferir quando chegar em casa.
Ou eu deveria começar por outro álbum?

 

[DW]

Re: Ayreon

Começa pelo Into The Electric Castle.

Mas se bem que eu acho que não da nada ouvir esse novo antes dos outros. Mas eu começaria pelo ITEC.

 

[TT1]

Re: Ayreon

Edit: Pensando bem, eu não sei se foi a cachaça não. Na wikipedia tem um tal de Wudstik listado como Man.

Sim, mas ele não canta rap

Ok, não conheço nada de Ayreon, mas vi vocês falando tão bem desse último cd que vou conferir quando chegar em casa.
Ou eu deveria começar por outro álbum?

Cara, você deve começar pelo Flight of the Migrator, ou pelo Into the Electric Castle.

 

[DW]

Re: Ayreon

Sim, mas ele não canta rap

Ele deve ter se deixado levar por essa imagem onde o cara ta com pinta de malandrão.

 

[TT1]

Re: Ayreon

Ele deve ter se deixado levar por essa imagem onde o cara ta com pinta de malandrão.

Eu já entendi onde ele ficou maluco. É que o cara faz uma misura de soul, rock e hip-hop.

Mas não viaja, não tem nada de rap.

 

[Regente]

Re: Ayreon

Eu já entendi onde ele ficou maluco. É que o cara faz uma misura de soul, rock e hip-hop.

Mas não viaja, não tem nada de rap.

Ah, mas hip-hop e rap não são a mesma coisa?

Enfim, eu só tava curioso para saber como ele se saiu cantando diferente do de costume.

 

[Regente]

Re: Ayreon

The Fifth Extinction:

Spoiler

(a) Glimmer of Hope

Through the eyes we will see

With the hands we will create

In the world we will be free

Without mind we'll shape their fate

Now the die is cast
The first step taken
A glimmer of hope lights up our lives
Visions of the past, dreams forsaken
Forming rith before our eyes
We will die...

Through the pain we'll learn to live

Remember all a past to give

Now the die is cast
The first step taken
A glimmer of hope of our lives
Visions of the past, dreams forsaken
Reignite the spark in our eyes

So alive

(b) World of Tomorrow dreams

I see a planet, perfect for our need
Behold our target, a world to plant our seeds

There must be life
First we move and retrace without a doubt
They may all die
Don't you think we should check it out

We have no choice
We waited for too long
This is our planet
This is where they belong

We may regret this
Is this the way to prostrating?
Turn execution
A mindless end a cruelty

In the world of tomorrow dreams
our future lies
In the world of tomorrow dreams
our hopes will rise

I see mainly reptiles, a lower form of intelligence
Mere brainless creatures, with no demonstrable sentience

What makes us superior
It did no do so great ourselves
A dying race
Emprisioned in restricted shells

In the world of tomorrow dreams
our future lies
In the world of tomorrow dreams
our hopes will rise

(c) collision Course

(solo de teclado: Derek sherinan)

(d) From The Ashes

Unless the smoke slowly rises

Our planet's barren and cold

Unless the black sky britens

A *wordless* world unfolds

With at the dawn of a new age

As we hear the final cries

Ready to aim to the next stage

From the ashes we will rise

Unless the smoke slowly rises

Our planet's barren and cold

Unless the black sky britens

* world unfolds

With the dawn of a new age

As we hear the final cries

Ready to aim to the next stage

From the ashes we will rise

(e) Glimmer of Hope (reprise)

Now the die is cast
The first step taken
A glimmer of hope lights up our lives
Visions of the past, dreams forsaken
Reignite the spark on in our eyes

We are alive

The Sixth Extinction:

Spoiler

It's the calm before the storm
It's the quiet before the roll
it's the chalm when all will be decided
(I will be decided)
If nobody hears

The Echoes on the Wind

It's the end of the chain
(destruction of the feeling)
It's the end of our brains
(we've seen it all before)
It's end of men's evolution
(The end of evolution)
For nobody hears
(the Echoes on the Wind)

2. "Radioactive Grave"

Do you hear the sirens?
Taste the adverse
Do you feel the fire?

All the world's a radioactive grave

I can hear them crying
I can see the fear
I can feel them dying

Washed away * gamble away

I can hear them crying
I can see the fear
I can feel them dying

Do you hear the calling
Taste the hurt
Do you feel them falling

All the world's a blazing funeral pyre

I can hear the wailing
I can see the wrath
I can fell them fading

Washed away *scorching in* fire

Do you hear the sirens?
Taste the adverse
Do you feel the fire?

All the world's a radioactive grave

I can hear them crying
I can see the fear
I can feel them dying

Washed away *
Washed away *
Washed away * scorching in fire

3. "2085"

Silence so loud
Not a soul
Left alive
Darkness, a shroud
2085
All our dreams have disappeared
They burned down, Tree of life
Confirming all that we have feared
(2085)

Don't give up
Remember how we felt
Fire rushing through our veins
Now's the time to rise up from our hell
Now's the time to free our brains

The meaning of life is to give life meaning
Go too fast, move too slow.
Restore the balance between thinking and feeling
Open up and let it flow

No silence one
Struggle to survive
A question is done
2085
All our hopes are disappearing
??? not a trail
Time will knockly ???
2085

Dont give in, remember how we learned.
The spark of life it did ignite.
We regained the rage for which we yearned.
We regained our will to fight.

Jorn:
We must resolve this human equation.
We're already dead if we don't try
To welcome challenge, generic variation.
Stop the machines, prepare to die!

4. "To the Planet of Red"

(solo teclado: Joost Van der Brook)


5. "Spirit on the Wind"

He's the last man alive
(Searching for the answer)
Knowing he won't survive
(to the mystery of life.)
Relives the past, and dreams of the future
(Dreaming of the future, and the sleeper will awake.)
And soon he'll set free
(his spirit on the wind)

6. "Complete the Circle"

Make us whole, my bleeding soul
Follow me home, complete the circle
We must survive, restore our lives
A way of soul complete the circle

Make us whole, my bleeding soul
Follow me home, complete the circle
We must survive, restore our lives
A way of soul complete the circle

Sent back visions into the past
Of war and decay

Hear the final cries
I can see the fear
In a world without walls

Through the eyes

I see them dying
We have to teach them
My bleeding soul

We regain our will to fight
We left them
We find a way

I know it will not be in the end
Listen to the warning

We gave them all the wise
What did they see?
What did they learn?

We have no choice
We are the future
We are the pain
Complete the Circle!

E = MC²:

Spoiler

It all came to me, in the awake of a dream
Bending space, reversing the stream
The knowledge is mine to influence time
And never **
we could use these to selfish mankind
Centre projections into the ???
As humanity face in their minds
let them know ???
It all com to me, to me in the awake up of a dream

This may be our last chance, if we want man to survive.
A mirror reflection, show them our world as it dies.
Cut through the barrier and do what no one has dared.
Let's break the equation, E = MC^2.

This may be our last chance, if we want man to survive.
A mirror reflection, show them our world as it dies.
Cut through the barrier and do what no one has dared.
Let's break the equation, E = MC^2.

Our first trial was a minor success.
No control, I can but guess.
We have to move now, don't know just how,
No mistakes are allowed.
(We can make no mistakes.)
I have sent it but nothing changes
Just a line in some ancient lore.
(Medieval times)
I don’t know just how far it ranges,
everything's like before.
(It all came to me in the awake of a dream.)

This may be our last chance, if we want man to survive.
A mirror reflection, show them our world as it dies.
Cut through the barrier and do what no one has dared.
Let's break the equation, E = MC^2.

This may be our last chance, if we want man to survive.
A mirror reflection, show them our world as it dies.
Cut through the barrier and do what no one has dared.
Let's break the equation, E = MC^2.

Unnatural Selection:

Spoiler

We have to teach them all that we know
Their evolution moves far too slow
Expand their minds and recheck the **cload wires***
Our greater knowledge upload our science

This revolution will lead to their demise
We should not make the same mistake twice
We're kept alive by artificial means
But lost our souls to a world of machines

Listen to the warning
Listen to the warning
Listen to the warning
Listen to the warning

Listen to the warning
Listen to the warning
Listen to the warning
Listen to the warning

We need to teach them to fight disease
They seem so helpless and need our expertise

I see them dying all across the globe
The graves fulls is part *

This sudden change leads to over-population.
Shifting the balance, destructive habitation.
Killing all life, biological invasion.
Consuming Earth by ruthless exploitation

Can you see the fire in their eyes?
Can you hear the himn that children cry
Can you feel the beauty in their loves***
Can you sense the love within their hearts

I can taste the freedom we once shared
I can sense the pain *** feel fine
I can smell the fragrance of the end
I'll live *** times ***

Don't want to live in a world that's dying.
I'd rather die in a world that's living.

Listen to the warning
Listen to the warning
Listen to the warning
Listen to the warning

Listen to the warning
Listen to the warning
Listen to the warning
Listen to the warning

"Before the dark powers of destruction unleashed by science engulf all humanity in flared or accidental self-destruction."

"Humankind has acquired the collective power, ability, to dramatically alter the environment of the entire planet."

"This will not be another Vietnam."

"The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.

We gave them feelings, what did they sense?
Shut out the world and put out the fence!
We gave the science, what did they do?
They built a bomb, and they used it too!
We gave them reason, what did learn?
Warmed up the planet and made it burn!
We gave the model, what did thay make?
Nuclear weapons for their own sake!
We gave them ??? what did they see?
??????????????????????????????????
We gave them wisdom, what did they fix?
Destroy it all ???
we gave them language, what did say?
They left the planet in misery
We gave them dreams, and what did they dream?

Don't want to live in a world that's dying.
I'd rather die in a world that's living.

Listen to the warning
Listen to the warning
[...]

A chain of guilt around our neck
A planet straying in darkness
Can we save lives we wreck
I say we shoud find a way
I say
Start this decay

Ajuda para preencher os ??? e *** é bem-vinda

 

[Myamoto Musashi]

Re: Ayreon

Ah, mas hip-hop e rap não são a mesma coisa? .

Deixa eu ver


Segundo eu aprendi com a minha irmã (não foi de propósito), a cultura Hip hop é composta de 4 itens. O DJ, o MC, o break e o grafite.


Apesar de chamarem a música de Hip hop, em teoria o Rap seria música do "movimento" Hip hop.




Cultura inútil rox

 

[Fëanor]

Re: Ayreon

Estou cada vez mais viciado nessa coisa. Cada vez que eu ouço, o álbum sobe MUITO no meu conceito.


Ah sim, quero registrar uma coisa:

Liquid Eternity: Bom riff inicial, bem arjeniano e pesadão. Refrão bacaninha, mas a musica não é tão boa, uma das mais fracas do álbum. O destaque é o Ed Warby, que tá destruindo.

Eu sei que isso de maneira alguma é depreciar a música, já que o álbum todo está fodástico. Mas sério TT, você fumou. Liquid Eternity destrói. Eu colocaria pelo menos no Top4 do 01011001.

 

[TT1]

Re: Ayreon

Eu achei essa musica muito comum.

 

[Jedi Solo]

Re: Ayreon

Eu sei que isso de maneira alguma é depreciar a música, já que o álbum todo está fodástico. Mas sério TT, você fumou. Liquid Eternity destrói. Eu colocaria pelo menos no Top4 do 01011001.

Idem. Achei ela muito foda.

"Before the dark powers of destruction unleashed by science engulf all humanity in flared or accidental self-destruction."

Isso é planned.

Destroy it all ???

Acho que isso é Destroyed it all within their reach. Rima, pelo menos.

 

[DW]

Re: Ayreon

Acho que isso é Destroyed it all within their reach. Rima, pelo menos.

Destroyed others within their reach.

Edit: Regente, você que colocou as traduções no Lyrics Plugin do Winamp!? Bom, alguém colocou e são as mesmas que você postou aqui.

 

[TT1]

Re: Ayreon

Ó, saiu o meu email na Roadie Crew desse mês pedindo capa pro Ayreon (caralho, como eu sou fanboy ). Me ajudem, entupam a RC de email.

 

[Regente]

Re: Ayreon

Destroyed others within their reach.

Edit: Regente, você que colocou as traduções no Lyrics Plugin do Winamp!? Bom, alguém colocou e são as mesmas que você postou aqui.

Yep.

Anyway, update na Unnatural Selection:

Spoiler

We have to teach them all that we know
Their evolution moves far too slow
Expand their minds and reject [?]
Our greater knowledge upload our science

This revolution will lead to their demise
We should not make the same mistake twice
We're kept alive by artificial means
But lost our souls to a world of machines

Listen to the warning
Listen to the warning
Listen to the warning
Listen to the warning

Listen to the warning
Listen to the warning
Listen to the warning
Listen to the warning

We need to teach them to fight disease
Their seems so helpless and need an experteese
I see them dying all across the globe
The graves fulls of *

This sudden change leads to over-population.
Shifting the balance, destructive habitation.
Killing all life, biological invasion.
Consuming Earth by ruthless exploitation

Can you see the fire in their eyes?
Can you hear the anguish in their cryes?
Can you feel the beauty in their odds?
Can you sense the love within their hearts?

I can taste the freedom we once had
I can touch their pain when they feel sad
I can smell the fragrance of the end
I'll relive the times we've used to share

Don't want to live in a world that's dying
I'd rather die in a world that's living!

Don't want to live in a world that's dying
I'd rather die in a world that's living!

Listen to the warning
Listen to the warning
Listen to the warning
Listen to the warning

Listen to the warning
Listen to the warning
Listen to the warning
Listen to the warning

"Before the dark powers of destruction unleashed by science engulf all humanity in planned or accidental self-destruction."

"Humankind has acquired the collective power, ability, to dramatically alter the environment of the entire planet."

"This will not be another Vietnam."

"The only thing we have to fear is fear itself."

We gave them feelings, what did they sense?
Shut out the world and put out the fence!
We gave the science, what did they do?
They built a bomb, and they used it too!
We gave them reason, what did they learn?
Warmed up the planet and made it burn!
We gave them model, what did they made?
Nuclear weapons for their own sake!
We gave them insight, what did they see?
???
We gave them wisdom, what did they teach?
Destroyed it all that's within their reach!
we gave them language what did said?
They left the planet in misery!
We gave them dreams, and what did they dreamed?

Don't want to live in a world that's dying
I'd rather die in a world that's living!

Don't want to live in a world that's dying
I'd rather die in a world that's living!

Listen to the warning
Listen to the warning
Listen to the warning
Listen to the warning

A chain on guilt around our neck
A planet straying in darkness?
Can we save the lives we wrecked?
I say we shoud find a way
I say
Stop this decay!

Can you see the fire in their eyes?
Can you hear the anguish in their cryes
Can you feel the beauty in their odds?
Can you sense the love within their hearts?

I can taste the freedom we once had
I can touch their pain when they feel sad
I can smell the fragrance of the end
I'll relive the times we've used to share

Don't want to live in a world that's dying!
I'd rather die in a world that's living!

 

[DW]

Re: Ayreon

Eu ainda penso que é "Destroyed others within their reach".